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Since: 4.1.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
According to 411, who got it from 1Wrestling, WWE is banning Hurricane Helms from using the Vertebreaker move. This is a preventive measure to help curb the recent spate of neck injuries.

Not much of a big deal, since I think Helms used the move maybe 2-3 times since he joined WWE.



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Since: 13.7.02
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#2 Posted on
Fair enough, I guess, though it was a pretty sweet move.

If you ask me, I think it's time we bid adieu to the German suplex, especially the four-in-a-row German suplex.
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Since: 20.1.02
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#3 Posted on
Angle and Edge weren't taking the Vertebreaker... they were taking regular rolling and release German suplexes. I've seen both of those guys land awkwardly from those (but not as awkwardly as Sabu).

Of course, Angle had an existing problem, and I'm sure Edge's TLC matches had something to do with the recent injuries, but those Benoit bumps weren't helping anyone.



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Since: 4.3.03
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#4 Posted on
I'm glad you mentioned Sabu, because he is what every wrestler should be, a nonstop bumping machine. I oppose any wrestling move being made illegal in the WWE, ESPECIALLY the tarantula and the katihajime.
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Since: 20.1.02
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#5 Posted on
I mentioned Sabu because he broke his neck taking a German suplex from Benoit (that's why he's the Crippler).



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Since: 11.9.02
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#6 Posted on
Are the tarantula and the katihajime illegal? I like the high-impact moves as much as anyone, but WWE needs to protect its assets and its assets are the wrestlers. For my money, there are plenty of ways to entertain the viewers without having their top guys constantly landing on their necks ala the german suplexes. I think it's just a matter of training the viewers not to expect those kinds of moves, then maybe busting them out on very rare occassions for extra impact.
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Since: 2.1.02
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#7 Posted on

    Originally posted by IsaacYankem
    I'm glad you mentioned Sabu, because he is what every wrestler should be, a nonstop bumping machine. I oppose any wrestling move being made illegal in the WWE, ESPECIALLY the tarantula and the katihajime.


Last I checked, the only reason the Tarantula was "illegal" was because the wrestlers are in the ropes while the hold is applied, which is illegal. It's not banned in the "this move can't be done ever" sense.

And since when was the Tazzmission illegal? Tazz used it all the time.

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Since: 15.1.03

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#8 Posted on
I've only seen Hurricane use the move on Heat against guys like Justin Credible and Raven.

That being said, the WWE is probably a better place without it. Get away from the high risk stuff, or you'll have guys with recurring problems later on.





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Since: 26.8.02

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#9 Posted on

    Originally posted by The Sham
    I mentioned Sabu because he broke his neck taking a German suplex from Benoit (that's why he's the Crippler).


No, it wasn't. Benoit went for his flapjack thing, Sabu mistimed so Benoit pushed him more and he landed wrong.

If they don't want anyone hurt, tell the Raw roster not to be so sloppy and have the Smackdown crew slow down.
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Since: 3.1.02
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
Well, let's see... If they BAN the Vertebreaker, then they should BAN the powerbomb (the running variety hurt Droz but good), the German Suplex, the Pedigree, the Impaler, the DDT, the Hurricanrana and all other moves that even GRAZE the neck. Heck, make every match nothing but armbars and leglocks.

Being preventative is one thing, but crippling the movesets of half the roster is something else all together.



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Since: 11.1.02
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#11 Posted on
How about banning all unprotected neck moves, then?

Put me in the column of a guy who'll miss the Vertebreaker. As mentioned earlier, it came out VERY rarely...and that's what made it cool in WWE; you never knew when/if you'd get to see it.






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Since: 4.11.02
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#12 Posted on
I'm personally glad they are banning the move. I cringed every time I saw that one b/c dropping a guy straight down on his neck unprotected is just plain scary.



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Since: 8.1.03

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#13 Posted on
Dammit... I'm going to miss that move... I best watch HeAT this weekend so that I can see Stevie take the final Vertebreaker...

I've loved that move ever since I saw Kudo Megumi do it a whiles back... Hell, Sugar Shane even had a whole theme song dedicated to that move...

Oh wells, I always my Puro to watch the sick neck bumps...
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Since: 29.4.02
From: Jax, FL

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#14 Posted on
I shall mourn it's passing. I heart Hurricane Helms and all he stands for.



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Since: 26.1.03
From: Naples, FL

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#15 Posted on
I've only seen the vertebreaker a few times, but it is so bad-ass. I love that move. It's a shame the neck injuries put it to rest.
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Since: 29.5.02

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#16 Posted on
Don't forget Ring of Honor. Homicide uses the Vertebreaker, you can get your fix from him.
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Since: 24.2.02

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#17 Posted on
Just like they banned all piledrivers?



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Since: 2.1.02
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#18 Posted on

    Originally posted by Venom
    I've only seen Hurricane use the move on Heat against guys like Justin Credible and Raven.

Neither of those guys took the move. Stevie took it twice (this Sunday's Heat included), and somebody else (I want to say AJ Styles for some reason) took it once.

Nobody has gotten hurt taking the move from Helms, including Stevie, who is known for having various neck injuries, but I understand the WWE's concern in light of the injuries to Edge & Angle. It's not like it has been a regular part of his move-set since coming to the WWE, but hopefully they'll let him use it on special occasions (i.e. if he ever gets on a PPV).



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Since: 8.6.02
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#19 Posted on
I really think the German suplex is the most dangerous move that they are still allowing. I don't think there's a problem with it being used sparingly, but in any SD match that went over 20 minutes every threw about ten of them and it just doesn't make sense to allow that to happen. Especially when there are fifty-seven other stiff suplexes out there that could be used.





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Since: 9.1.02
From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada

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#20 Posted on
The german suplex thing wouldn't be so bad if HALF THE DAMNED ROSTER wasn't using it now. How many guys are using germans, let alone multiple-german suplexes?!? I honest to God wouldn't be surprised if there are more german suplexes in a Smackdown show than clotheslines.

Seriously, what the hell is the point of doing 4 of them in a row and risking injuring the guy if the audience doesn't give a shit about it because you're the 8th guy that night to do the move?


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